Pukapuka (Book) Episodes

Pukapuka Episode – Ego is the enemy (Ryan Holiday): Te Awanui, David & Pera (#5)

Paperback Guerrillas podcast episode #5 – Te Awanui Reeder, David White, and Pera Barrett discuss Ego is the enemy by Ryan Holiday

A rangatira doesn’t call themselves the rangatira, a master doesn’t call themselves the master, that’s up to the people.” — Te Awanui

Paperback Guerrillas is the podcast for mana enhancing kōrero (life-improving conversations). In our pukapuka (book) episodes, we discuss a book we’ve enjoyed, break down the kaupapa and talk about applying the book’s messages and lessons in real life.

In this episode, Te Awanui Reeder (Nesian Mystic, Big River Creative), David White, and Pera Barrett discuss Ryan Holiday’s book Ego is the enemy. The kōrero starts on points from the book, ego at aspiration, success, and failure stages of mahi, and branches out from there.

We talk about purpose versus passion – passionate people will talk about what they’re going to do, purposeful people will tell you what they’ve done. Ego in hip hop/rap music and the business world. Being an eternal student, when ego can help and hurt. Dave talks about ego in martial arts and his experiences in Brazilian Jiu-Jitsu. Awa discusses his current studies in UX design. We discuss our own ego pitfalls, and how we manage interactions with people who are coming in with their ego firing, and much more!

We hope you enjoy listening to this episode as much as we enjoyed recording it.

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Show notes:

  • Passion and purpose, are they different?
  • Does ego help in learning?
  • Checking your ego at the door.


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As always, he mihi nui, a big thank you, to Patrick Ryan for the audio magic, and Trek One for the choice intro music (you can hear more of his music on Spotify here.)

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